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There is a huge opportunity in Canada for you. A lot of our Canadian customers don't want their data sitting in the U.S. and Europe location is too far/slow.

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      • Anonymous commented  · 

        Just let me know if you could use someone on the ground in Canada if you move in this direction. resume and credentials availible on request

      • Glenn KelleyGlenn Kelley commented  · 

        They could use OVH for this - Heck OVH is very inexpensive for what they offer

      • Anonymous commented  · 

        30M population is so hard to say that a 'HUGE' opportunity there.

        And the taxes would stop DO and other good businesses moving in.

      • Patrick ConnollyPatrick Connolly commented  · 

        The Canadian government is increasingly working with contractors, many of whom want to start using exciting services and toolchains (ie vagrant, appfog, chef's knife tool). The catch is that there are simply no decent cloud providers that allow access via API. Digital Ocean moving to Canada would have a huge leg up in that space.

      • MichaelMichael commented  · 

        Indeed, the Canadian market for VPS services is currently very noncompetitive and Digital Ocean could capture a huge chunk of the market. Even more props if you're able to segregate all Canadian customer data for businesses that need to comply with privacy guidelines and keep everything on Canadian soil.

        Vancouver and Toronto are the main peering points in the country, but there are reasonable connection points in other parts of the country as well. Datahive in Calgary is home to the new but growing YYCIX (http://www.yycix.ca/peers.html) and might be worth considering as a slightly more central location with potentially favorable taxation and proximity to Alberta's strong energy sector.

      • Ray MooreRay Moore commented  · 

        Western Canada would be great. I'm in the western US and I'd love to have my server in BC or something. I'd even pay a premium to have it (perhaps this would help get the datacenter funded).

      • Steven SmethurstSteven Smethurst commented  · 

        Anywhere that is non USA. The USA Patriot Act scares me and stops me from doing business with USA based cloud services.

      • StephenStephen commented  · 

        Thought I would throw my 2 cents in here.

        Firstly to clear up a misconception, iWeb does have a carrier neutral option. If you buy space in a carrier neutral rack, you can choose inbound/outbound routes as you please: http://iweb.com/server-colocation/neutral-racks. The problem with iWeb is that only handful of providers connect to their facilities. You don't have the same transit options as sitting ontop of a main internet exchange point, but on the flip side your server space is cheaper.

        Apples to apples, if you are going to be at the main IX, Toronto is the place to be. If we just compare ASN's available at the main carrier hotels, Toronto (@ 151 Front St) has ~200 carriers versus ~70 carriers in Montreal (@ 1250/625 Rene Levesque). Toronto also has more long haul fiber routes to US/CA cities than Montreal and more diversity overall.

        When it comes to international connectivity, assuming everything is setup correctly on both ends, you are not going to see much difference in either location. Traffic for Europe almost always goes through NYC. Asia through SEA/PA/SJC/LAX. Central/South America through DFW/MIA.

        Currently Montreal has bad connectivity with Canadian ISPs. Reason being there are no public peering facilities. CologIX/QIX only do private peering. So unless you own a large network like the incumbents do, moving traffic can get expensive because whether local or not it all goes to transit. There is a public peering point opening in Montreal soon (I don't have a date) that is supposed to address this problem. Toronto is much better for this, TorIX has been long established and as of this writing lists 160+ peers: http://www.torix.ca/peers.php

        If you research colocation in Toronto you will probably come across Colosseum Online (AS19842) or Yesup (AS22923). Both of those are similar to iWeb - hosted in the suburbs, carrier neutral, affordable. I recommend looking into them.

        Downtown Toronto, 151 Front is usually running at capacity. There may be space available in 905 King (151 Front's sister property). There is also a new Equinix DC being constructed downtown at the corner of Parliament/Front: http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2012/12/10/equinix-leases-more-space-in-toronto/. If Canadian hosting is really taking off then data centre construction activity should continue picking up.

      • Moisey UretskyAdminMoisey Uretsky (Head of Product, Digital Ocean) commented  · 

        Carrier neutral means that the datacenter provider only provides the physical space and you select which carriers (Level3, Global Crossing, Tinet, etc.) that you want to use.

        That is why we work with facilities like Equinix and Telecity because they are carrier neutral and we can select any transit providers that we like.

        In regards to Canada Montreal is definitely a great choice.

      • Anonymous commented  · 

        Oups.. just was Iweb is not carrier neutral.. can you exlplain ? there is also Cannix and i can recommend some other if you want

      • Anonymous commented  · 

        Montreal is a destination of choice even for european application... the network is strong and severall backbone are available that cover north america.
        More over, our electricity in Quebec ( province where Montreal is located ) is Green and from Damp.. This is the strongest in North America... so im totally agree with the iweb data center proposal in the thread !! Please do a pilot project asap !!!! and i will take care of market it for you in the french province !!!!

      • Jonathan MacDonaldJonathan MacDonald commented  · 

        I too have come across concerns from customers regarding the Patriot Act as well -- here's a vote for a data centre in Canada.

      • Anonymous commented  · 

        Another Canadian here, Western Canada specifically. Let me know when / if you set up here. Thank you.

      • Andrew TaylorAndrew Taylor commented  · 

        For a canadian data centre I recommend rackforce in Kelowna British Columbia, my company uses them for colocation (2 racks) and they have excellent infrastructure, and are safer then vancouver when considering natural disasters (such as earthquake and tsunami risks) would be happy to share any information to help

      • Peter CarrollPeter Carroll commented  · 

        Actually, A Canadian datacenter option will be popular with American/International companies too. Some will like their data kept out of reach of the Patriot Act. And from a network perspective, Toronto is just a few milliseconds from New York. 151 Front is one of the major peering points on the net.

      • LyonLyon commented  · 

        I would like a Canadian Data Center as well. Toronto or Vancouver.

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